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9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« on: April 06, 2013, 03:09:42 PM »



I love the wide spaced frets ... has a really extreme and 'bad-ass' look to it. This is by Sword Guitars for Zach.
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 05:49:57 PM »

WICKED!!!
WICKED! :)
Stoked.
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 08:57:41 AM »

I'm always amazed how well this simple EDO approximates one of my favorite intervals - the septimal subminor third 7:6. 2\9 is only 0.2 cents off, and if you look for another EDO that gets closer, you have to go pretty far...
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2013, 04:47:10 PM »

That's my guitar.....can't wait! A metatonal 7 limit shred machine!
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 05:07:57 PM »

Haha, I know how you feel, can't wait for my 31-tone guitar either!

I think these scales look pretty interesting:

0 1 3 4 5 6 8 9 (has everything I love about "0 3 10 14 17 21 28 31" in 31edo!)
0 2 3 5 6 8 9

...on second thought, it seems to be kind of hard to play any scales in this tuning that don't sound great!

Please let us know if you record something! ;)
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 06:14:41 PM »

I will let you know..I should have something recorded shortly after I receive it. 9 is easy. The highest edo I have on guitar is 26 at the moment. Seems to me meantone systems like 19, 26, 31 (of course 12) are somewhat easy to navigate on guitar. I have experience with 19 too..but at least diatonically 31 seems fairly straightforward from the charts I've seen. I did record a piano improvisation in 31 though..really awesome tuning. Anxious to hear what you come up with in 31, so far I've only heard Ron and Stephan James Taylor play 31edo guitar. Mind blowing stuff!
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Re: 9 EDO Xiphos, Sword conversion.
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 02:36:52 PM »

Yeah, diatonic stuff in 12edo is very similar to meantone in 19, 26 or 31. Superpyth in 22edo is also very similar, except the minor thirds become subminor thirds 7:6, the major thirds become supermajor thirds 9:7, and so on.


I was fascinated by the seamless slides in 31edo which I noticed in Stephen's music video - it's almost like using a bottle neck.

I'm curious how well everything will work out in practice; this will be my first microtonal guitar, and a 31edo guitar has a lot of frets compared to 12edo. Also, I'm not very experienced with recording, and composing polyphonic music might be difficult w/o a suitable notation software where I can quickly edit some notes, and immediately hear how it sounds.

However, I'm pretty confident about 31edo itself - I made a nifty cheat sheet that allows me to quickly generate scales in any linear temperament I want. Also, I worked out a concept that helps me to find elegant modulations between scales associated with different temperaments. E.g. start in meantone, modulate to orwell, then to casablanca (closely related to my "antimajor scale"), squares, the septimal minor scale, mothra, and back to meantone ... or something like that. Also, seamless modulations like these are probably a lot of fun:

0 5 7 13 18 20 25 31 (septimal minor scale)
0 5 8 13 18 21 26 31 (minor scale)
0 5 9 13 18 22 27 31 (neutral diatonic)
0 5 10 13 18 23 28 31 (major scale)
0 5 11 13 18 24 29 31 (septimal major scale)

...did I mention I can't wait? ^^
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 02:38:40 PM by Gedankenwelt »
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